This is the "Three Principles of Food" advocated by Rika Fukuda.

In the third part of the dialogue, Rika Fukuda's food theory and Yukiko Tomiyama's original "food theory related to pancakes" were introduced.


Yukiko Tomiyama "The three principles of food are, to put it simply, the theory that if you make food appear in the story well, you can easily understand the character, emotions, and situation of the characters." The first of the three principles is "Good people eat food deliciously." Mr. Fukuda, could you explain this? "

Rika Fukuda "You've shown the bottom of your stomach. If you eat delicious food, the audience will unconsciously think that you can trust this guy. I eat it steadily. I can't hate the audience watching it. "

Yukiko Tomiyama "I see. The second,'Unidentified people don't eat food.' What is this?"

Rika Fukuda "I can't see the bottom of my stomach. People who don't know what they're thinking often don't eat food. Exceptionally, eating is very strange. For example, Dracula drinks human blood. Zombies eat human flesh. By eating something different from yourself, you can feel a terrible fear. "

Yukiko Tomiyama "Third,'bad guys treat food poorly'"

Rika Fukuda "You don't have to eat this or not. However, if you treat the food poorly, it looks like a very bad guy. For example, now I am this (prepared for this day's event) You're trampling on cookies, right? Then you'll definitely hate me.

But think twice. How much does this cost? It doesn't cost 10 yen. However, if you trample on this, you will also trample on the feelings of the person who made it. Let's say I hit Tomiyama-san. Which one looks worse when compared to that? In some cases, trampling on cookies may look like a nasty guy.

I've always thought that a good work is a good use of that in the story. "

Yukiko Tomiyama "That'I always thought'is a great cousin. The three principles of food theory are, so to speak, correct and understandable, but I wonder why I hadn't noticed until now. It's all about things. Normally, following a story means tasting the work, but the focus is on food, not the story. That makes it possible to reread the work. "

■ "Pancake version food theory?"

Next, "Pancake version food theory", which was devised by Tomiyama based on Rika Fukuda's food theory, was introduced. When pancakes appear in comic works, there seems to be a certain law.

Yukiko Tomiyama "A little while ago, I had a conversation with Yuko Umemoto, the author of" Manga Shokudo "at another event. We read the manga featuring pancakes and introduced it to everyone. The two of us talked about pancakes on paper that are inedible, and I'm going to announce the rules about how pancakes are drawn in the manga that I noticed at that time. "

◆ Pancake version food theory # 1: Pancakes in manga tend to fly in the air


Yukiko Tomiyama "(Pointing to one frame of the comic displayed on the slide) This is Kasai Sui's comic" Cat and Pancake ". It is drawn in a relatively calm tone and is rather quiet. It's a great work, but I still fly it when I fly it. See! You're flying, right? "(Laughs at the venue)

Rika Fukuda "I know if I've baked it once, but I can't fly pancakes."

Yukiko Tomiyama "I don't fly! But it does fly in the comics. There is a work called" Cake Cake Cake "in the comic by Moto Hagio, and the flight distance is amazing."

◆ Pancake version food theory # 2: Height tends to be claimed overseas, and thickness tends to be claimed in Japan.

Yukiko Tomiyama "The second is that we tend to express the volume with the height overseas and the thickness of one piece in Japan. For example, in the overseas work" Chibikuro Sambo ", the height is expressed by the number of sheets. However, in Japanese works, it is more important that one piece is thick. In Doraemon, there are four thick pancakes of the Suneo family, while three pancakes of the Nobita family. It is thick and casually appealing that Suneo's house is rich.

The material I gave you today summarizes what I just said. Can you take a look at the list? "



Rika Fukuda "It's pretty flying in the air."

Yukiko Tomiyama "I'm dancing. Regarding the flight distance, I think that Moto Hagio's" Cake Cake Cake "is the most flying.

In terms of the number of sheets, "Chibikuro Sambo". With 169 sheets, this is by far the best on the list.

At height, the poem that a family of four builds a pancake tower in Mieko Kawakami's poem collection "Water Bottle" is amazing. It's baked and piled up. Finally, the poem that my mom finished wearing syrup from her head on the pancake tower made me think Mieko Kawakami was amazing. "

Rika Fukuda "Mieko Kawakami's Akutagawa Prize-winning work was" Breasts and Eggs "? In this title, the ingredients are lined up," I'm going to make pancakes "" (laughs at the venue) )

Yukiko Tomiyama "Sure! It would be great if you were inspired by this poem. All you need is powder."

Rika Fukuda "I wish I could bake it. It would have been fun to have such a title." If you only have milk, eggs, and powder "" (laughs at the venue)

◆ Pancake version food theory # 3: People tend to use pancakes to convey that the characters are happy

Yukiko Tomiyama "Using pancakes as a symbol of happiness and good relationships is the case in most of the works listed here.

"Yotsubato! I don't want to make the food poor because I can't turn it over, but as a result, I'm sad because it's poor, and after that it's deliciously baked and everyone enjoys eating. I will.

The reason why only Doraemon does not have a circle is that it is a work that happiness is that all the members are together, so happiness is not expressed in the hood. However, in Doraemon Long Stories, it is interesting to say that you eat hot cakes made from plankton. Doraemon says he'll make anything with plankton, but Shizuka-chan asks for hot cakes for some reason. "

Rika Fukuda "Doraemon's" Dora "comes from Dorayaki, right? I wonder if it also hangs with Dorayaki. Dorayaki is basically a hot cake, isn't it?"

Yukiko Tomiyama "That's right. Instead of topping with red bean paste, it can be said that it is a kind of hot cake sandwiched inside. Japanese favorite hot cakes are baked unlike overseas pancakes. It's kind of like a firm, fluffy, moisturized pancake, but I think it's because there are "Dorayaki seniors". "

■ Why do foods from overseas undergo their own evolution in Japan?

With the appearance of the Japanese-style pancake "Dorayaki Senpai" in the story, the story of the two people turned to "Why do foods coming in from overseas undergo their own evolution in Japan?" To go.

Rika Fukuda "The food trend in Japan is aggressive. I think it's more intense than any other city in the world. Japanese sponge cakes are completely different from those overseas. Maybe In an era when I couldn't take pictures very beautifully, I think that as a result of listening only to the story and inflating my delusions, I think it evolved independently. "

Yukiko Tomiyama "I read Seiko Ito and Jun Miura's" Mibutsuki ", but in the past, the Buddha statues in Kyoto weren't something that anyone could see. You carve a Buddha image while remembering it? There is a limit to human memory, so I wondered if it was like this. As a result of adding my own interpretation, Perth came and a strange Buddha image was completed. It seems that there was something like a carving. Is it easy to understand when it comes to galapagos? The food may be the same. "

Rika Fukuda "I think so"

Yukiko Tomiyama "There is no such thing as hot cakes in Japanese coffee shops overseas. I heard that people from overseas were surprised to see them. Japanese pancakes are Super good. I've never seen it. "

Rika Fukuda "Isn't it the same with curry? Also, you wonder why you come to eat ramen from China? Ramen is imported from China by Japanese people. However, since it has evolved on its own, from the perspective of Chinese people, "No, it's not in China like this," and now it's a tourist resource in Japan. "

Yukiko Tomiyama "When a Japanese ramen shop opens in China, it's strange that Chinese people line up."

Rika Fukuda "Yes, it's strange. But it's strange, but that's the culture, isn't it?"

Yukiko Tomiyama "Cultural things are refined and eliminated as they go back and forth between the center and the periphery of fashion, but we can grasp the timing and place to catch such movements. I'm sure people will change. "

Rika Fukuda "The place where you were born, the age, etc."

Yukiko Tomiyama "So, if you're in Japan in 2013, it's a loss if you don't enjoy the pancake boom. Also, maybe a cartoonist will appear in the work for a while. I think I'll let you. I'll collect it and report it to Rika Fukuda on a regular basis! "

■ After the conversation

What did you think? It is a pity that the humor that oozes from Rika Fukuda's narrative and the runaway that starts from Tomiyama Yukiko's "sudden tame mouth" are not transmitted when it is written in this way.

"It's a waste not to enjoy pancakes in Japan in 2013"

Yukiko Tomiyama said so. But even if you couldn't hear the story of these two people in Japan in 2013, maybe you did a wasteful thing.